boilers were on. of her 24 double-ended boilers connected up." Not to mention the difficulty in changing the shell-plating at the bow and stern which bore the ships names - the names were not just painted on the plates, they were cut into the plates in letters four feet high and one-half inch deep that were then filled in with paint. the game. Secondly it was a "national coal strike" so the shortage of fuel would primarily only affect ships departing or visiting England. distribution for 1910 being 30 percent after depreciation. 18. shelved 11,906 times Showing 30 distinct works. 45,324. Olympic was the first to be launched, pronounced the largest and most luxuriest ship in the world. And the Olympic is actually the Titanic. Firstly, it is true that the Carpathia had a capacity of more than what the Titanic was carrying - the Carpathia was certified for more than 2800. 20. 5. The Olympic, like the Titanic, was fitted originally with the same 14-porthole arrangement on the port side of her focsle, but 2 additional portholes were later fitted; they were there in March 1912. Also, fragments of linoleum have been recovered from the wreck, further proving this to be more likely than carpet. This is the wreck montage here: PHOTOGRAPH 2012 RMS TITANIC, INC. - Leading Fireman Charles Hendrickson (British Inquiry, Day 5). After a million men had walked out for 37 days the government intervened and ended the strike by passing a minimum wage law. However, this is not unusual, even for modern ships, and can be due to several factors. James Fenton on how variation in a line presents the poet with many challenges. So there is nothing surprising with the fact that an iceberg caused enough damage to the starboard side (not bottom) of the hull so as to breach watertight compartments that eventually led to its sinking. As for the White Star Line itself, it was the December 31 st 1911. Despite the lack of any evidence (and the clearly fictional nature of the claim) it also has no logic for at least 5 key reasons: 1. 100 cubic feet equals 1 "ton" of internal volume. RMS Olympic after the collision with HMS Hawke. Leading Fireman Frederick Barrett testified before the British Wreck Commission that on the day of the collision Paddy also said 4. They would not be interested in the transatlantic route as it would mean not returning to Belfast or Southampton for several weeks. In July 2013 he wrote to Alexandra Bruce of ForbiddenKnowledgeTV (http://www.forbiddenknowledgetv.com) the following: I have just been made aware that you are broadcasting a film under the heading "Was the Titanic Deliberately Sunk by J P Morgan" (original title "Why They Sank Titanic") on your Forbidden Knowledge TV Internet TV channel. We know that Titanic had spare propellers made (as after the disaster they were used for memorials) so it would not be unreasonable to expect Olympic was the same. not go to sea as Titanic with Olympic written on the bells. James is a public writer - engag, as he probably doesn't like to say - and it is his poems about war, dictatorship and exile that have won him the PEN/Pinter award. Claim: Patchwork and braces from repair work due to damaged caused by the Hawke collision with the Olympic found in Titanic's stern wreck photographs. The number proves that 1. the propellers could and would not be swapped and 2. that it is Titanic. At least one of them would speak to someone, or at the very least have a deathbed confession and not one single report was ever made. Morgan also had several valuable bronze statues removed from the ship just one hour before she sailed! name on it. Sometime later in a documentary entitled "Titanic - The Shocking Truth" the following image appeared: An obviously faked computer generated image of the letters M and P on the wreck. The "Olympic" is the Titanic's sister ship ("RMS Olympic"), and part of the conspiracy . This is a classic example of a 'meme' using demonstrably false information or incorrect images to promote the 'switch' theory, as it can be very easily disproved when looking at documented photographs. Thirdly, the description "numerous" is very misleading. (Click image to enlarge). There is of course some mystery over what really happened to Titanic's lifeboats after the disaster. His English translation of Giuseppe Verdis Rigoletto was staged by the English National Opera in 1982. The fields are mined and the wind blows cold. ", Claim: Author of two books exposing the theory, Steve Hall, has actually admitted on camera: "I would have to say the question remains open. her full speed if the weather cooperated. Only a limited number of changes required for a switch 19. This is consistent with the damage previously sustained by Olympic. The fact is that there were many physical differences between the two ships that would involve substantial work to change. At the time there was also a coal strike, issues with Olympic being repaired, and Titanic was not at full passenger capacity. Then there's the furniture: so heavy you could hardly lift it. Titanic's sea trials were shorter than Olympic's It is obvious that a rather large dose of imagination has been used to see the alleged 'damage'. Titanic was carrying over 2200, and could have potentially been carrying more than 3000 if fully occupied. His quote that "the question remains openI do not have enough concrete information" is from a 2004 episode named "Titanic: The Ship That Never Sank?" Such falsification and misinformation reveals that 'switch' adherents are sadly not interested in the truth. This means Morgan would certainly have no reason to return early on April 10 especially when he was due in Venice by April 23 (remembering that the transatlantic voyages are at least 5 days long, he would be unlikely to make it back in time). Olympic's name is on the wreck Stick to the path. 17. So technically Titanic did not "weigh" 46,328 tons - that was her gross tonnage (GT) or volume. On Olympic the fireplace was at the outer wall between two windows. 12 said that the Frenchman jumped in before the boat was lowered, indicating that he did jump from the boat deck into the boat. Accomplished through strategic, long term planning . This claim is often accompanied with some unverified private anecdote of having met Ballard or seeing a presentation given by him shortly after the discovery of the Titanic in the 1980s. Their reasoning is as follows: You can not add one thousand tons to a 46,000 ton ship and end up with a 46,000 ton ship. Actually, it is quite likely true that most of the Belfast 'delivery trip' crew did not sign on for Titanic's maiden voyage. In this close up of the post-disaster image of Olympic, single-ended boilers in Boiler Room No. As in the previous points, we know that damage to the Olympic did not include a 'warped keel'. "iceberg" (or what Gardiner believes was an "IMM rescue ship") interrupted this original plan. Titanic being towed out to her sea trials. The vessel which sailed out of Southampton on 10 April 1912 can only have been a 45,000 ton ship with the last minute addition of 1,000 tons of GRT in her B Deck public rooms and enclosed area on A Deck. Again no mention here that lifeboats were seen from B Deck. This is his testimony: I understand it has been stated that the ship was going at full speed. Captain Smith was photographed by a newspaper photographer on the bridge of the Titanic. There are two keys errors in this hypothesis. It is true that a list to port was observed by passengers Lawrence Beesley (in The Loss of the S.S.Titanic) and Norman Chambers (US Inquiry). was 60 years old at the time of the sinking, and was examined on Day 17 of the British Wreck Commissioner's Inquiry. in a high position in the company, the other man was in a very high position Paddy said that the guilt of Above: Olympic, taken during her 1912/13 refit following the Titanic disaster, allegedly shows the vessel without the tell-tale plating joint. (Click to enlarge). Harold Sanderson repeatedly referred to Titanic as Olympic The claim that he repeatedly referred to Titanic as Olympic seems to be without founding. it is highly unlikely that any crew member would have foregone his pay, and no pay was ever claimed by a crewman named James Fenton. The evidence Gardiner and others use to promote the idea of the Californian being a 'rescue ship' is that firstly, it was owned by J.P. Morgan (a "major figure at White Star"), left London in a hurry (as it could only do 12 knots and had to get there first) and was mysteriously sailing during a coal strike (when coal would have been more expensive) . Researchers Bill Sauder and Parks Stephenson have come to the conclusion that in fact the dining room was not carpeted. (Click image to see the full, enlarged photograph). They Quite simply Titanic was underinsured, the main reason being that the White Star Line actually insured its own ships. The actual triangular hole in the Olympic is much further aft than the location of the so-called 'patchwork' on the wreck. There were no plates or anything that could be swapped over- the name was literally engraved into the ship, then filled in with paint. Titanic researcher Ioannis Georgiou explains further: "Ismay's sitting room was explored by James Cameron during his 2001 dives. However he conveniently does not explain It mentions "Paddy the Pig" aka James Fenton. Survivor Lawrence Beesley wrote about men in the smoking room sighting the iceberg in his book, "The Loss of the SS Titanic": "One of them had seen through the windows an iceberg go by towering above the decks. However, this was not unique to Titanic. In a similarly themed false claim, it is also stated that "when the supposed Olympic was taken out of service in 1935 (arriving in Jarrow, UK on October 13th 1935 to be stripped and broken down) part of the wood panelling and other parts including the Aft first class staircase, was taken and used in the White Swan Hotel, Alnwick, UK. However, 1,000 tons of alterations were made resulting in a final tonnage of 46,328. Olympic survived too long for a badly damaged ship 4. His wartime experiences heavily influenced his ensuing volumes of verse, which included the pamphlet Dead Soldiers (1981), containing a single poem on meeting Pol Pots brother in Cambodia; The Memory of War: Poems 19681982 (1982), including some of his student work; and Children in Exile (1983). James Fenton, in full James Martin Fenton, (born April 25, 1949, Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England), English poet and journalist who was remarked upon for his facility with a wide variety of verse styles and for the liberal political views threading his oeuvre. Survivors on B Deck saw lifeboats lowered from above But according to Titanic researcher Ioannis Georgiou "none of Titanic's boats were reused by the White Star Line. - Able Bodied Seaman Edward John Buley also reported a couple of tons of block ice (British Inquiry (Day 16). This is not heard in the documentary and so Steve Hall is mis-quoted as if he is summarising the entire 'switch' situation, when his comment was actually directly in relation to the wreck - not the theory in its entirety. Titanic's insurance was increased 5 days before sailing aware she never exceeded 75 revolutions. Only a limited number of changes required for a switch 6. Claim: Photographs taken of Titanic at Southampton shortly before her maiden voyage show a large area of discoloured plating, as if it had been newly painted with paint that did not quite match the original, in the same location as Olympic's hull was damaged by HMS Hawke. Titanic's lifeboats had "RMS Olympic" written on them More tellingly, this does not look like repair work - considering that this was supposed to have been completely repaired and seaworthy. Olympic had a 2 degree list to port, as did Titanic 5. "Wind", the opening poem in James Fenton's Yellow Tulips: Poems 1968-2011, was written over 30 years ago, but could be about any natural disaster or environmental crisis, and most of today's wars . seemingly confuses the two in name. Edith Rosenbaum, George Rhiems, Albert Dick and Vera Dick and William Sloper. According to the documentary "Titanic Breaking New Ground", James Cameron sends a robot submarine into the sitting room of the promenade suite on B deck and films Claim: When James Cameron sent a robot in to Ismay's room it filmed a veined marble surround on the fireplace that exactly matches that shown in a photograph of the corresponding stateroom aboard Olympic, taken in 1911. This was the result of a difference in the coal consumption and the emptied coal bunker aft of BR 6 and forward of BR 5The coal bunker was on the starboard side which was emptied. And any allegation to the contrary - of an increase - needs evidence, for which at present there is nothing but unverified speculation. 19345. Difference in port side joint plating 39. There is no proof that a man named James Fenton, also known as Paddy Fenton or "Paddy the Pig" was ever aboard Titanic; his name is not on any of the crew lists or among any of the survivor lists. Difference in tonnage She had a total capacity of 47 passengers and 55 crew members. Claim: Since an iceberg could not inflict such damage on a steel double-hulled vessel such as the Titanic, it must have hit Olympic had 16 bow portholes. All the Wrong Places: Adrift in the Politics of the Pacific Rim (1988) was an account of his journalistic experiences. Ice on the deck was not from an iceberg Captain Smith was also, like the Captain on the Californian, they claim, also sleeping fully clothed in the chart room. Ismay went on public record at the April 1912 United States Senate Hearings and also it was reported in the official public findings that the value of Titanic was "$7.5million" a figure independently verified by the New York Times and The Spectator ("$8 million") while insured at only "$5 million" (as reported at the Senate Inquiry, The New York Times and Lloyds itself). Refer to the images below. Some thus reason that the swap still took place out of business and economic necessity. everything else was added. First and foremost we must address the fact that 'tonnage' mentioned here does not refer to a ship's "weight". There is photographic evidence of this being applied to Titanic, in the first week of March 1912 and which shows the stark contrast between the light grey primer and the fresh black top coat being applied, as seen below. James Fenton | Poetry Foundation Second Class also had an open promenade on the aft end of the Boat Deck, and enclosed ones on B Deck and C Decks. off the bell. answer was to grind the names off the bells. Upon graduation in 1970, Fenton embarked upon a career as a freelance journalist and was hired (1971) to report on literature and politics for the New Statesman. The reality is that Olympic's yard number 400 is all over the scrapped items - and this is documented: (see more information on this here). The only picture in the entire production to which Mr Newton had any rights at all was one late in the film supposedly showing where the name on the wreck had been altered. Titanic researcher and wreck explorer Parks Stephenson, who most recently was involved in photographing the Titanic wreck in 2019, simply replied: "People will see what they want" (26/09/2019) and posted this image: Claim: The starboard B-deck windows on the wreck are narrow, which matches the Olympic, not the Titanic. First and foremost is that the Californian would be a ridiculous choice as a rescue vessel. Only a limited number of changes required for a switch, 8. However, as with the mythical "private flat in the Wirral" claim, this is devoid of any documented evidence. Most died of exposure in the freezing water of the North Atlantic because there were not enough lifeboats. Claim: The Californian had a cargo of a few thousand woolly jumpers and blankets, as if they were ready for a rescue mission. The following list of Titanic Passengers and Crew has been compiled from several sources. In fact the outlines of the letters are visible in part on the wreck, and the surviving White Star passenger tender Nomadic, built at the same time as Olympic and Titanic, shows exactly the same process. During this process workers allegedly discovered the name Olympic 'carved into the gunwhales,' as 'the old name had been filled with putty and painted over.' In fact it had a "double-bottom" since shipbuilders at the time considered a full double hull an unnecessary expense, being satisfied with a double bottom instead. surviving crew got to port they were all taken aside and met by two men, one And if these researchers and historians are supposedly "in" on the conspiracy then why would they release this image at all and risk the 'truth' being known? (Click image to enlarge). However it must be pointed out that even battleships with sealed bulkheads will still sink, as they can roll over. Goodwin Antiques 295 $361.88 345.06 Silver Enamelled Bracelet Recess Antiques 50.00 $61.34 58.49 Silver Blade Fruit Knife . Alleged footage of Olympic's name on the wreck - it is obviously fake. Frankfurt (140 miles) Norddeutscher Lloyd Line Eastbound, Galveston to Bremerhaven. Let us know if you have suggestions to improve this article (requires login). and would never get a job when they got out. Titanic had a "slight, but permanent, list to port" as observed by Lawrence Beesley and "several other surviving passengers.". This is supposed to show Olympic's wheelhouse as being straight rather than curved. The switch theory primarily rests on the alleged premise that the sinking was a deliberate act to recover insurance money, to rescue the White Star Line from bankruptcy. Secondly, it is true that the outline of each letter was incised into the hull, and then painted in with a golden/yellow shade. Most tellingly, if indeed "a large proportion of the engine crew" refused to work aboard Titanic because of rumours of a 'switch,' then why did these crewmen not speak out, especially after the disaster? The fact that the Olympic went on to serve 24 years is simply because the damage was repaired. The wheelhouse actually sits within the bridge enclosure and behind the forward bulwark (see deck plans below). Fenton was also active in the theatre scene. Discoloured plating on Titanic Able Bodied Seaman Frederick Clench who was in lifeboat No. then they absolutely need more than this very doubtful photograph to prove that Olympic's "doubler" is not overlapping and hence it is actually Titanic. In fact footage of this is used in his 1997 blockbuster film "Titanic" and with some creative license he actually places the fictional character of Caledon Hockley in this suite. There is nothing here on which to base a 'switch' theory. Seacocks opened to hasten the sinking, 30. Olympic had an "overlap of the plates, or strakes" forward of the bow anchors (described as "the doubler forward at the bower anchors"), while Titanic was different in that "the strake butted up against the doubler and did not overlap it.". This claim is of course connected to the previous claim that the ship hit, instead of an iceberg, an IMM rescue ship that was drifting with its lights out. Florence Ismay (wife of J Bruce Ismay, chairman of White Star) also cancelled along with their children, and just like Morgan she said she was ill, and instead went on a motoring holiday! Claim: All that needs to be done to switch the ships is exchange those parts of the ships which bore the vessels names such as name plates, the ships bell, menus and note paper letterheads, the names on the life belts and life boats, also any plaques and brass fittings with the liners name on and any interior signing bearing the name Olympic or Titanic. how in just four and one-half days the Titanic reached the position where she sank if she was never able to travel at more than 12 knots! The Claim: White Star never had any intention of scuttling the ship. However, The cost of switching the ships (note point 5 about the number of changes necessary on both ships) and additional ongoing costs of keeping thousands of people quiet would be enormous and most importantly completely unnecessary. B-deck window spacing on the wreck But most tellingly, there is not one eyewitness account of ever seeing ice on the rigging. 22. And that paneling" This has led some to believe that Titanic's first class dining room, unlike the Olympic, was in fact carpeted over, as later portrayed in James Cameron's film "Titanic". This woodwork has the reverse sides clearly marked. He was awarded the Queens Gold Medal for Poetry in 2007 and won the PEN Pinter Prize in 2015. Please note how it does not match the so-called 'Titanic' image in the 'meme.' the evidence that the number 400 (Olympic's number) is all over Olympic's woodwork (see more information on this here). Paddy said that the guilt of Mark Chirnside reports the following: "The companys surplus on the profit Titanic's speed was investigated by Mark Chirnside and Samuel Halpern in their article entitled "Speed and More Speed" from which the following information is taken. 1. week and that the Captain and the company knew about it. Another key component of the 'switch' theory is to state that damage to HMS Hawke was much more substantial. 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